{"id":102403,"date":"2024-07-21T08:25:53","date_gmt":"2024-07-21T12:25:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.owegopennysaver.com\/PS\/?p=102403"},"modified":"2024-07-21T08:25:53","modified_gmt":"2024-07-21T12:25:53","slug":"car-collector-corner-oldsmobile-not-forgotten-and-still-a-nascar-record-holder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.owegopennysaver.com\/PS\/2024\/07\/21\/car-collector-corner-oldsmobile-not-forgotten-and-still-a-nascar-record-holder\/","title":{"rendered":"Car Collector Corner; Oldsmobile not forgotten and still a NASCAR record holder"},"content":{"rendered":"

By Greg Zyla —<\/span><\/p>\n

Q:   Greg, I enjoyed your recent Muscle Car Top 10 and your Plymouth \u201cGone but never forgotten\u201d features that appeared in our newspaper. I\u2019m wondering if you could do something on the Oldsmobile, another top car that got the axe. Why did General Motors drop the Oldsmobile? How about Oldsmobile\u2019s impact on the racing world? Thanks for considering my letter. Ronnie Z. from Rhode Island.<\/span><\/p>\n

A: Ronnie, thanks for your kind words and let\u2019s get to your questions.<\/span><\/p>\n

Ransom Olds founded the Olds Motor Vehicle Company in 1897, and during its heralded 107-year history, 35.2 million cars were sold. General Motors dropped the Oldsmobile mainly because of declining sales back in 2004. <\/span><\/p>\n

Furthermore, another reason for its demise was that Olds was already sharing mechanical platforms with Pontiac and Chevy. So, if you bought an Olds Alero, it was identical to the Pontiac Grand Am and Chevy Malibu. The same thing happened with Ford when it dropped its Mercury line and at Chrysler, when the Plymouth was deleted from its core model offerings in favor of Dodge. Olds was the first modern era model GM dropped, with Pontiac soon to follow in 2010.<\/span><\/p>\n

The Oldsmobile history, meanwhile, is loaded with accomplishments both on the road and at the racetracks. It is also commonly agreed that the first ever American muscle car was the 1949 Olds Rocket 88 coupe, featuring a 303-inch, first ever GM overhead valve V-8 engine that would run over 130 mph in a straight line. Although Buick used an overhead valve design in its straight-6 and straight-8 engines, it did not release its first overhead valve V8 until 1954.<\/span><\/p>\n

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The 1949 Oldsmobile Rocket 88 is known in the performance car circles as the first muscle car thanks to its 303-inch Rocket V8, the first overhead valve V8 from General Motors. Cadillac also debuted its overhead valve V8, coming in at 331-inches but in a car too heavy to match the Olds performance. (GM)<\/p><\/div>\n

Not only did the 1949 Olds Rocket V8 become a hit with consumers of all ages, the Rocket 88 power became legendary in both NASCAR, which was organized in 1948, and early-organized drag racing. <\/span><\/p>\n

Although Hudson dominated mid-1950 NASCAR races, it was the Oldsmobile that was the car to beat. If you check the race results from the 1949, 1950, and 1951 NASCAR races, Olds was the top winner by a wide margin.<\/span><\/p>\n

Over at the drags, not only did those early Olds cars run well in the stock categories, but owners of the early gasser classes also relied on aftermarket supercharged Oldsmobile engines prior to the Hemi taking precedence in the 1960s. <\/span><\/p>\n

In the NHRA super stock classes, the Oldsmobile was a standout performer for several decades. On a personal note, Jack Kulp used Oldsmobiles in his early NHRA racing and made a name for himself running all types of Olds powered race cars, from stockers to blown AA\/GS supercharged gassers.<\/span><\/p>\n

Also of note is the dominance Oldsmobile showed in the modern era of NASCAR as it won the 1980 Daytona 500 with Buddy Baker behind the wheel in what was then the fastest 500 ever run with an average speed of 177.602, a record that still stands after 44 years. Olds also won the NASCAR Manufacturer Cup title in 1955 and twice in the Grand National Division (now Xfinity), in 1983 and 1991. Oldsmobile\u2019s last season of NASCAR competition was 1994.<\/span><\/p>\n

Other Olds notables include being the first GM manufacturer to offer a tri-power 3×2 barrel carburetor setup in 1957, beating Pontiac for that honor by about three weeks. By the 1970s, the famous Olds Cutlass intermediate was a best-selling model, overall, for several years. <\/span><\/p>\n

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Here\u2019s an ad for the 1949 Oldsmobile coupe featuring the new Olds Rocket 88 engine. (GM)<\/p><\/div>\n

As for modern era muscle cars, few came close to matching the popularity and performance of an Olds 442. The original 442 appeared in 1964, the same year as the Pontiac GTO debut. <\/span><\/p>\n

The best-known Olds muscle car, however, is either a 1968 or 1969 Hurst Olds 442, both the most desirable Olds muscle cars ever built. The \u201968 was finished in silver and black while the \u201969 came in white and gold. Both featured 455- inch Rocket V8 High Output engines with Ram Air induction and 500 lb. ft. of torque from 390 horses. As for nomenclature, 442 stands for \u201cfour-barrel carb, four-speed transmission and two (dual) exhausts.<\/span><\/p>\n

Olds also received credit in 1902 through 1907 for building the first ever auto assembly line, but it was a stationary line unlike Henry Ford, who built the first moving assembly line in 1913. General Motors purchased Oldsmobile in 1908, and, along with its first brand, Buick began sharing parts between the two for ease of assembly and to keep costs in line.<\/span><\/p>\n

Personally, it was the 1950s and 1960s when I became fully aware of Oldsmobile, and the many model names intrigues me even to this day. I loved the first true hardtop Holiday 88 in 1950, then the soon to follow Dynamic and Super 88s. When GM finally retired the 88 line in 1991, after 50 years, it was second only to the Chrysler New Yorker in name brand recognition.<\/span><\/p>\n

Along the way, and as the years went on, I also remember the station wagon Vista Cruiser, Starfire coupes and convertibles, Delta 88, Jetfire, Custom Cruiser, Omega, Calais, Ciera, Firenza, Achieva, Bravada, Aurora, Silhouette, and Intrigue. As for top luxury, the 98 series filled all the needs of those who wanted opulence in a more discreet manner.<\/span><\/p>\n

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The late Buddy Baker still holds the fastest average speed record when he won the Daytona 500 in his Olds Cutlass 442 in 1980. Baker averaged 177.602 mph for the 500-miles. Some say the record will never be broken as there were no yellow flags that year nor restrictor plates to slow the cars. (NASCAR)<\/p><\/div>\n

Olds also was the first to offer a fully automatic transmission in 1940 called the Hydra-Matic, the front drive \u201cMotor Trend Car of The Year\u201d Olds Toronado in 1966, its F-85 with an all-aluminum 215-inch V-8 from 1961 to 1963, and Olds Vista Cruiser wagons with unique skylights.<\/span><\/p>\n

Today there are still lots of Oldsmobiles at car shows and drag races, so fans can enjoy the cars up close and personal. Unfortunately, I\u2019ve once had a company car Olds Firenza wagon, but I still hope that someday I\u2019ll park a 1969 white and gold Hurst Olds 442 in my garage. (Yea, right!)<\/span><\/p>\n

Thanks for your question.<\/span><\/p>\n

(Greg Zyla is a syndicated auto columnist who welcomes reader input on collector cars, auto nostalgia and motorsports at greg@gregzyla.com<\/a>).<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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